EPISODE 52 – The Intersection of Love and Awareness with Rhonda V. Magee

Highlighting the intersection between love and awareness, Rhonda V. Magee joins David to discuss real change in a culture of separation.



“I fully believe, for most of us, especially in the West, grounding in a quality of love and care as how we experience awareness is pretty important because we have so much healing to do. We’ve been so alienated from ourselves, each other, from the planet.” – Rhonda


This time on CSM, David and Rhonda converse about:

  • Rhonda’s background and personal definition of love
  • Real change through love, inspiration and a sense of connection
  • The inter-being of mindfulness and metta
  • The principle of loving everyone and telling the truth
  • What happens when truth is met with resistance or denial
  • Living in a time where we have constant reminders of fear and anger
  • How our culture has reduced us and objectified us
  • Intergenerational phenomena and walking through many phases of life
  • What we leave behind for the next generation and what we can learn from youth
  • Real and perceived differences
  • Deepening our own well-being so that we can be there for others


“There are more seductive, more public-facing versions of power: arms, might, and all of those classic, often masculine ways presented in our culture of feeling ourselves as strong and powerful. But, in my humble experience, and as I look across history and time, I think of all the many different ways that real change has happened, that we feel ourselves really being alive together, that we’re inspired to create life together, and I really think that love is a greatest power of all.” – Rhonda


About Rhonda V. Magee:

Rhonda V. Magee is a Professor of Law at the University of San Francisco and a leading mindfulness teacher and practice innovator with a focus on applying mindfulness to the hardest challenges of our times. She is an internationally-recognized teacher, guide and mentor, focused on integrating mindfulness into higher education, law and social change work. A prolific author, she draws on law and legal history to weave storytelling, poetry, analysis and practices into inspiration for changing how we think, act and live better together in a rapidly changing world. Keep up with Rhonda on her website or on social media.



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